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		<title>By: ellie</title>
		<link>http://kileigh7.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/i-thought-librarians-were-supposed-to-be-educated/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, sounds like she just had a brain fart. I work the reference desk and during any given shift I might have such a range of questions that my brain can be pretty tired by the end. Though by objective measures I&#039;m intelligent, I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve occasionally caused a patron to wonder who hired the blithering idiot. That&#039;s life, none of us are 100% all of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, sounds like she just had a brain fart. I work the reference desk and during any given shift I might have such a range of questions that my brain can be pretty tired by the end. Though by objective measures I&#8217;m intelligent, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve occasionally caused a patron to wonder who hired the blithering idiot. That&#8217;s life, none of us are 100% all of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: karin</title>
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		<dc:creator>karin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it might have been a case of not quite listening to you...maybe? And she didn&#039;t hear the knitting part?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it might have been a case of not quite listening to you&#8230;maybe? And she didn&#8217;t hear the knitting part?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Previous commenters have defended my profession already, so I&#039;ll just throw in a &quot;what they said&quot;!  

Wrap vs. rap is an easy mistake to make -- and besides, in a knitting world where there are books like &quot;Pretty in Punk,&quot; I don&#039;t think that &quot;Rap Style&quot; is that far outside the realm of possibilities!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Previous commenters have defended my profession already, so I&#8217;ll just throw in a &#8220;what they said&#8221;!  </p>
<p>Wrap vs. rap is an easy mistake to make &#8212; and besides, in a knitting world where there are books like &#8220;Pretty in Punk,&#8221; I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;Rap Style&#8221; is that far outside the realm of possibilities!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m totally with Renee here -- just because the person you  talked to was in the library doesn&#039;t mean that they were a librarian.  It is a common misunderstanding, but just like everyone who works in a hospital is not a doctor, and everyone who works in a law office is not a lawyer, not everyone who works in a library is a librarian.  And honestly, there is some probability that the person you spoke with wasn&#039;t a librarian at all.  When budgets get tight, library services are among the first things to be cut or tightened, and one of the ways that library systems deal with this is to employ fewer actual librarians.  For example, my local branch library has a for-real librarian there only once a week for two hours because of budget woes.  The rest of the time it is open it is staffed by paraprofessionals (some of whom are phenomenal, and some of whom have the IQ of a shoelace) and volunteers.  

The best way to address this kind of thing is to write a letter (or an email) to the head of the library system.  If the person was a librarian, the boss will light a fire under her to get on the ball.  And if not, it will provide justification to get some real librarians in there.  Either way, you&#039;ll be doing the library system a favor (not to mention doing a favor to patrons like you, too).

I&#039;m sorry you had such a dumb, frustrating experience but please don&#039;t give up on libraries.  They provide a &lt;a href=&quot;http://liswiki.org/wiki/Category:Services&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mind boggling array of services&lt;/a&gt;, all for free (after taxes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m totally with Renee here &#8212; just because the person you  talked to was in the library doesn&#8217;t mean that they were a librarian.  It is a common misunderstanding, but just like everyone who works in a hospital is not a doctor, and everyone who works in a law office is not a lawyer, not everyone who works in a library is a librarian.  And honestly, there is some probability that the person you spoke with wasn&#8217;t a librarian at all.  When budgets get tight, library services are among the first things to be cut or tightened, and one of the ways that library systems deal with this is to employ fewer actual librarians.  For example, my local branch library has a for-real librarian there only once a week for two hours because of budget woes.  The rest of the time it is open it is staffed by paraprofessionals (some of whom are phenomenal, and some of whom have the IQ of a shoelace) and volunteers.  </p>
<p>The best way to address this kind of thing is to write a letter (or an email) to the head of the library system.  If the person was a librarian, the boss will light a fire under her to get on the ball.  And if not, it will provide justification to get some real librarians in there.  Either way, you&#8217;ll be doing the library system a favor (not to mention doing a favor to patrons like you, too).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you had such a dumb, frustrating experience but please don&#8217;t give up on libraries.  They provide a <a href="http://liswiki.org/wiki/Category:Services" rel="nofollow">mind boggling array of services</a>, all for free (after taxes).</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
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		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s a librarian, not a mind reader.</description>
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		<title>By: Eryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I passed two degrees to qualify as a librarian and studied for a further year in order to become professionally chartered.  Many of the staff who serve on the desks are not qualified librarians and even those who are may not be knitting experts.

I&#039;d also like to point out that the idea that librarians are supposed to be geniuses who know everything is rather unrealistic.  We are human and are subject to the same limitations of other humans.

Perhaps you should write to the Universities who teach librarianship and suggest that knitting terminology is added to the syllabus ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I passed two degrees to qualify as a librarian and studied for a further year in order to become professionally chartered.  Many of the staff who serve on the desks are not qualified librarians and even those who are may not be knitting experts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to point out that the idea that librarians are supposed to be geniuses who know everything is rather unrealistic.  We are human and are subject to the same limitations of other humans.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should write to the Universities who teach librarianship and suggest that knitting terminology is added to the syllabus <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...are you sure the person was a librarian, and not just staff? Be a shame to go colouring librarians with such a broadly negative brush, only to find out it was just desk staff,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;are you sure the person was a librarian, and not just staff? Be a shame to go colouring librarians with such a broadly negative brush, only to find out it was just desk staff,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While my fellow librarians have already made a good case for the profession in previous comments, it could unfortunately be true that the librarian you encountered was just not up to par. It happens, although it is an exception and not a rule.

It isn&#039;t totally out of the question to ask for clarification on spelling when it could easily be done either way-- regardless of the book&#039;s subject. Better to clarify than assume. That said, this person you interacted with did make an assumption and didn&#039;t consider alternatives, which is why I agree that this was poor service on her part. According to your descriptions, they certainly did not act as if they knew what they were doing.

But you would be surprised the titles some books have, and one thing I have learned is not to judge a book by its title and vice versa. 

And I assure you, the ability to use a keyboard is not the only requirement for librarians these days. If that were true, it wouldn&#039;t take two years of full-time graduate level schooling, and it wouldn&#039;t be so difficult to find and get hired for one&#039;s initial proper librarian position. Perhaps in some areas in the country they&#039;re lacking qualified applicants, but that is certainly not true everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my fellow librarians have already made a good case for the profession in previous comments, it could unfortunately be true that the librarian you encountered was just not up to par. It happens, although it is an exception and not a rule.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t totally out of the question to ask for clarification on spelling when it could easily be done either way&#8211; regardless of the book&#8217;s subject. Better to clarify than assume. That said, this person you interacted with did make an assumption and didn&#8217;t consider alternatives, which is why I agree that this was poor service on her part. According to your descriptions, they certainly did not act as if they knew what they were doing.</p>
<p>But you would be surprised the titles some books have, and one thing I have learned is not to judge a book by its title and vice versa. </p>
<p>And I assure you, the ability to use a keyboard is not the only requirement for librarians these days. If that were true, it wouldn&#8217;t take two years of full-time graduate level schooling, and it wouldn&#8217;t be so difficult to find and get hired for one&#8217;s initial proper librarian position. Perhaps in some areas in the country they&#8217;re lacking qualified applicants, but that is certainly not true everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it was loud in the room (libraries aren&#039;t the quiet places they used to be). Maybe the librarian was having an off day (everyone does). Maybe the librarian didn&#039;t hear you say it was a knitting book. Maybe maybe maybe...

To address your friends who think we cannot read or do so at a kindergarten level.... As someone stated above, librarians (not clerks or other paraprofessionals that may assist you when you visit a library) go through a graduate program to receive an MLS. And yes, part of that program is being literate. Try getting into a graduate program without that ability.

But thank you oh so kindly for judging an entire profession by one experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it was loud in the room (libraries aren&#8217;t the quiet places they used to be). Maybe the librarian was having an off day (everyone does). Maybe the librarian didn&#8217;t hear you say it was a knitting book. Maybe maybe maybe&#8230;</p>
<p>To address your friends who think we cannot read or do so at a kindergarten level&#8230;. As someone stated above, librarians (not clerks or other paraprofessionals that may assist you when you visit a library) go through a graduate program to receive an MLS. And yes, part of that program is being literate. Try getting into a graduate program without that ability.</p>
<p>But thank you oh so kindly for judging an entire profession by one experience.</p>
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		<title>By: madknits</title>
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		<dc:creator>madknits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a knitter, and a librarian, who holds a couple of subject masters&#039; degrees, I know how to spell &quot;definitely&quot;. 

As well, at the library where I work, all the librarians speak at least one foreign language, sometimes two or three. One woman has Russian, Hebrew and French. I have Italian and Hebrew. Plus damn near fluent ASL for dealing with our Deaf patrons. So I reckon we&#039;re pretty well educated. 

In a public library, not everyone working the desk is a trained librarian. Not everyone working at the desk is involved in your specialty. She could have been having a bad day, could have been dealing with nasty kids (like my cousin, who was threatened by a couple of teenagers at her library, which kind of ruined her day), so cut her a little slack. I&#039;m sure you&#039;re not always on top of your game when you&#039;re at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a knitter, and a librarian, who holds a couple of subject masters&#8217; degrees, I know how to spell &#8220;definitely&#8221;. </p>
<p>As well, at the library where I work, all the librarians speak at least one foreign language, sometimes two or three. One woman has Russian, Hebrew and French. I have Italian and Hebrew. Plus damn near fluent ASL for dealing with our Deaf patrons. So I reckon we&#8217;re pretty well educated. </p>
<p>In a public library, not everyone working the desk is a trained librarian. Not everyone working at the desk is involved in your specialty. She could have been having a bad day, could have been dealing with nasty kids (like my cousin, who was threatened by a couple of teenagers at her library, which kind of ruined her day), so cut her a little slack. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re not always on top of your game when you&#8217;re at work.</p>
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